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If you want to impress someone, do not bother with education, talent or skill, brag about money. Appearance is the only thing Brazilians care about anyway. It is a sad reflection on the state of the country. Brazilians I know say similar things. He has been in the UK for about 8 years and will do anything to stay. I think London is a dump but Sao Paulo is the worst parts of London a thousand times over and pumped on Steroids!
Your experience seems odd to me, but I would probably blame it on two things: Speaking Portugues and only staying there for two weeks. They probably were talking to your girl because they thought she was Brazilian.
I lived in Brazil for about half a year and I was never met with such friendliness and just a general since of welcome anywhere else in the world. I traveled all over the country for a month SP, RIo, Bella horiz, curitiba, brasilia, salvador, and a bunch of small towns and stayed in a variety of places; favelas, pousuadas, random sofas, and people welcomed me like I was one of their own.
At times, some things did come off as rude, for example, no one asks for the ketchup while eating they just reach over your plate and get it. A guess a big difference in our travels would be the hotel. I never stayed in one there, too expensive, plus the workers probably just saw you and your girl as a dollar sign. There is a huge class war there and that probably had something to do with the negativity you received.
I would definitely not blame race either. For the majority of my stay, i stayed in Bahia in a small town, where people accepted me into their community. I never had any weird looks and no one ever tried to rob me or anything. That just comes with the big city territory. Plus, Rio is gangster dude. I can only imagine what they tried to pull on you there.
Thanks for the feedback Dan. Sounds like you had a pretty crazy type of trip. We spent 3 months in South Africa recently, another developing country with a high crime rate where we also stuck out.
Still I find it very annoying the way people usually behave. Btw, Im a traveler too, i have been all over the US, Europe, South America and all over Brazil too, never had any problems or difficult situations and before you ask me why I dont just up and move out of Brazil the answer is I will. As soon as I can. Thanks so much George for your feedback, nice to know what Brazilians think of their own countrymen! Our neighbour and friend is a lady of Brazilian origin Carioca, meaning from Rio.
At first I was surprised of her negative views: She painted me such a negative picture of Brazil and Rio particularly , not in an excited way, but quietly, matter-of-factly, that I gave up any idea of visiting that country. Thank you for the feedback Joanette. It seems Frank bbqboy prefers Colombia than Brazil…and believe that Colombian girls are the hottest in world?
Wow, what a wise comment. I lived and worked in 11 countries so far. There are good and bad things in every place you go. Here in Australia Lebanese are considered bad ones — and there are plenty of discrimination too. I came to meet nice Colombians and some very nasty ones too. Not physically nasty but perhaps poor in character. It really depends on who you are, where you go, what you are after and what type of people you like to hang with.
If you want problems sure you can find anywhere. If you really want to know Brazilian people, and go far beyond Rio and Sao Paulo.
I hate Brazilian people because of their sky high murder rate, anti-social behavior, lack of respect for all those around them, filthy streets, constant loud music, crazy driving, mad obsession with clothes, general dislike of the rule of law and corruption. I could moan about how vile and uncivilized the Brazilian people are for days, and I totally understand why the Americans want to build a big beautiful wall, to keep south Americans out of the USA. I agree with all your points although I generally like Brazilian music.
And contrary to anything Mr. Trump has said, Mexicans have been going back to Mexico booming economy rather than the other way around.
Yes I do despise them. My baby daughter was very sick and was struggling to sleep with the constant loud music.
With that his little face smiled and told me to call the police. Here in Great Britain they would apologies and wish my baby girl better.
But not with your average thick selfish Brazilian. Mothers regularly try to give their children away and seem more interested in dressing up as if they are going to a night club, rather than looking after her children.
To a Brazilian violence, theft, rape and anti-social behavior is the norm, and borrowing money from family and friends that are trying to help them, then not paying it back is also normal behavior.
I was staying in the more nicer parts of Brazil. I dread to think how awful it must be living in a favela that is run by a drug dealing dictator. I think Brazilians must despise each other, why else would the murder each other in such high numbers that more people are killed in Brazil, than the Syrian civil war each year. How long did you live there? Were you on a work contract? I totally get how other people can make you more or less aggressive by their behaviour. We recently spent 7 weeks in Japan and the people so polite, so orderly that you end up acting just the same…then there are those other places where you have to be aggressive to survive recent example: You talk about being bumped into by a lady at the airport with a trolley.
The last time we were in Brazil the same thing happened to my wife at a supermarket. My wife says they are so thick and uneducated that this is normal behavior in Brazil. Did you notice how the women pull sarcastic childish faces there is an example of this in the link that you link to by a fellow blogger, at the top of the blog.
Look at the lady in the photo where an old man gets sprayed with fake snow. I wake up every morning thanking god that I was not born a Brazilian. By the way thank you for letting me post on your blog and I wish you and your partner a Happy New Year. I am a Brit married to a Brazilian wife and have travelled to Brazil several times.
My Brazilian family and friends treat me like a King when I am over there and watch out for me, so have no complaints as I have always been treated well. Language wise it takes a while for a Gringo to acclimatise to the lingo but living at home with wife, step daughter and visiting Brazilians the language changes between Portuguese and English and I picked it up fairly quickly…..
I have been trying to get to grips with understanding Spanish but find it a lot faster on the ear than Portuguese — perhaps its because I am used to the rhythm of Portuguese now!
Spanish just seems like a rapid blur at times. The smaller coastal towns and inland mountains in Brazil have some real gems and the wildlife and forests are amazing. I also agree with another poster on here I felt safer in Cape Town than in Rio. Even my very Anglo-sized Brazilian wife and our Brazilian friends here in the UK become enraged by the lack of manners, inefficiency, loudness and rudeness of the people along with the utterly SHOCKING driving standards whenever they go back.
Oddly enough I know more Brazilians in the UK than English people and after a few years of living here many of them could never envisage the prospect of living back in Brazil. I am a bit more open minded and hope in the next few years to rent my house out and live in Brazil for a few years and springboard to the rest of South and Central America. Nope this part of the world is enjoyed when your cash lives outside the region.
Thank you for the detailed comment, always good to here what people with family blood or not think of Brazil. Ours was a short trip, but enough for us. Sometimes I wonder if we were just unlucky…but we can only form opinions based on our experiences. By the way, we totally, totally loved Cape Town and the Western Cape a more recent trip, we spent 3 months there in early Rio was back in I believe..
And the people were just the complete opposite: We would go back to SA in a heartbeat. Yes, I would never invest in South America. Just too unstable, too many corrupt politicians. My wife is also mixed race most Brazilians are although she is light skinned. Believe me racism and economicism is alive and well in Brazil. My Mother in Law is practically Tupi Indian and speaks the lingo and because she is darker skinned is discriminated against all the time…..
As an outdoor adventurer I have done a lot of travelling in my life and I can hand on heart say that South Africa especially Cape Town is one of the finest places to live in the world my opinion of course. My brother still lives an hours drive north of Cape Town in the Swartland. I will continue this conversation in the South Africa column rather so that your posters can follow..
Interestingly enough a lot of white South Africans are heading for Colombia and state striking similarities in the economics, politics and development of the two countries. Thanks for the insights Colin. As far as South Africa — absolutely loved it. My ex-boss have known him over 20 years is the same as you: South African as well as UK passport. And he feels exactly the same as you. Great article, thanks for the tips! As the biggest country in South America and as the soccer mecca of the world, Brazil is a marvel to visit.
However, there are numerous tourist targeted scams to be wary of. Thanks for the tips David. The other thing is, Brazilian do not like when foreign talk with them in Spanish , why? I know the two languages are very closed, but still not the same language. The weather , I hate cold. While I appreciate it, I think you are making a lot of excuses for the Brazilians we met. We now live in Croatia where the level of English is quite low. I would not have done any of that if I was a close minded person.
As I always say, we can only judge based on our experiences. This was my experience in Brazil. Also appreciate your Canada comments. I was born there and it shames me that people are like that. I lived in different parts of Canada but spent over 25 years in Montreal — but when I retired we left exactly because of the kind of mentality that you are referring to.
Yes, that is what my Americans friends call us. But they are the first to complain about the level of violence, racial segregation and the cost of healthcare in their own country.
Like in Europe, it makes for a better society. That was really not my intention, I even said she was very rude. Vision, dental, mental health, home visit services and prescriptions are not covered, the last one just for retired people. My opinion Switzerland ,has the best health system. Take Bill Gates, for example , he is one of the richest people in the world ,but is one that helps poor people the most. All the time we see news that he donate to hundreds of causes , and he is not alone, I also have seen a lot of poor people donating the little they have.
Paying high taxes is not the only way to help poor people, especially in Brazil, where there are so much corruption and horrible politician. Thanks for the comment Lara. This post dates back to 10 years ago and at that time there was a lot of anti-American sentiment in Brazil with the whole Visa situation which is why I mentioned that maybe unfriendliness was due to being mistaken for an American.
But in the case of that lady it was just a case of somebody being rude. Anything serious will be taken care of and are usually handled on priority basis. The more taxes you pay, the more income you are making! For me it was something I always wanted to do and I planned around it, giving up many things along the way.
Lissette never dreamed of it but had to follow my dream. But we have to give up things like friends, family, having roots somewhere…So nothing is perfect but like anything else, if it is something you dream of then it is sometimes worth sacrificing other things.
I have to laugh when reading your report!!! I can believe it. But I can understand perhaps that it is real. And you just had the wrong turn of events. Probably having the bad introduction at airport, started a bad tone. And you dont have very much other interactions with Brazilians. I will say that from 30? For me, I have only seen friendlier in the tiny island of Bermuda — and perhaps equally only near the beach tourist areas of Florida.
ANd you must kidding!!! You didnt see sexy girls in Rio? I truly had mild whiplash one day, when suddenly passing through a busy part of Copacabana Beach. You must be gay. Or just dont like thonged Booties. My friends wanted to go the Strip Clubs, and I soon realized, the beaches there, are better than any U. But often they are dancing on the Rio beaches also. I never met ANY man, there, except a Russian who prefers starved Russian girls, that wasnt blown away by the girls.
And actually … It is so wonderful, that all my female friends were also adoring the majesty of the Rio girl. La Carioca which is actually the same name for the guys. Either in the over-populated Sao Paolo — which like any big city — people are fighting for space and attention, and think they rule the world. Or you were in the more poverty stricken states of Brazil, … where life is more hopeless, and they have no glorious beaches to relax and enjoy sometimes … in any place in the world — and in the United States — people always want to blame Americans for their misery.
Though they always promote policies that promote violence, and lower paid jobs …. If you and your girlfriend are jealous types — then yes — Rio is no place to go.
The homeless street people, resting their heads next to their pee and poop piles, would jump and wave, if you gave them a short hello when passing … If you like booties … Rio is an unreal paradise. And the people … while might be hard to really befriend … are always ready to be festive, and positive. Thank you for posting a bad review, that comes up on first page of google searches. Rio, was almost as expensive as my home city 4th most expensive in USA , so I adore all the bad reviews of the city — CRIME is outstandingly out of control — and terribly managed … and the prices are at the edge of being too high.
And I cant afford to go anymore. In space and population. It will have ALL types!! And has attracted many immigrants — and so must have all types of subcultures … Sorry, and thank goodness there is so much anti-American sentiment — keeps americans away from nice cheaper places. Fortunately for me, I am multi-lingual and can fit in any place soon. And in Europe — people usually think I am Italian or Greek.
Or from their country. So sorry, if I ignored any updates. I guess it all depends on our experiences — yeah, I expected beautiful, bootied girls on the beaches. Believe me, I love coloured girls my wife Latina. But I never mind anyone having a different opinion as long as they can describe the reasoning. I thought about what you said … I mean … again, pondering your first words.
It occurred to me, that I owe you an apology, and deep gratitude. And perhaps I was errored in what I said, and I cant delete it now. You should have emphasized the crazy high level type of crime Brazil can have. One of the most violent non war countries in the world. The prices though often cheap in many parts — can be similar to U.
You were there during the Olympics? Maybe, as I know from living in other party cities — the locals were staying away from the beach, with all the foreign crowds there. Or you only went on cold cloudy days? BUT — actually … if you were there in August? Actually … yeah … when I first got there … there were less locals on the beach — it was more tourists but mostly Brazilian tourists. It really makes no sense that you didnt … that you didnt have relationship problems, if you went there with a girlfriend.
I mean, even a night stroll there … though many are not so especially attractive, once you get near the road with the all the strip clubs, there is already high concentrations of very attractive Brazilian night workers — a country where it is legal, and so somewhat controlled.
Maybe … you came in the winter … during a time, when the city was overtaken by foreigners … The people awaken more in the summer … You are from Canada?
Do your girls go out in bikinis in the winter time? Even if their winter weather is warmer than your summer weather … It was the case when I lived in Florida. I went there to swim … but after a hot summer, I almost never stepped foot in the water, all winter long … then I came back to the cold north USA, for July … soon I realized, that our summer waters are warmer than florida winter waters, so I started to swim again in the winters there … but the locals thought I was crazy.
Though they also think you are crazy for swimming in the summer — because then the water is too hot! You were so lucky to see them — practice out in the open on the Beach? I hope to spend much time in Brazil. So your article discouraging foreigners from going, is most helpful. And now I see even cheaper prices. It helps to make the experience better, if you can get a place to live, all just for the cost of food you would eat anyhow.
You simply need to go to them. Brazilians LOVE — are passionate — enjoy life as best they can — and make the best of things — they try to be festive always … I think especially in Rio — again, probably as I have seen living in other party cities — they keep alive a bit of the spirit of Carnivale — all year round — keep in mind, that some people work hard ALL YEAR — for that one celebration — customs, dances, songs … and to that spirit IS alive all year in Rio.
BUT — thanks again … I realized later what you were doing with your article … basically going down the checklist, of what all to appropriately say, to best keep this a Hidden Paradise. I was there for 3 months … the max allowed for usa citizens, a special offer made only if we arrived during the Olympics. Soon after arriving, I learned I could not access my bank cards, nor my online businesses, together which was to pay for my time there.
After about a month, I was out of cash … I could have gone to the airport, and changed my ticket for free. The thought of ending up on the streets of Rio, was more favorable, than needing to leave Rio.
It is a land of Enchantment … but … yeah … if it wasnt for the Booty Dunes its like little sand dunes, all across the beach — I cant believe you missed it!! I dont see how you missed it…. And they did a good job of it. And for some time, Americans were forbidden to go there, without risk of losing our passports … Anyhow … interesting world. I hope I can spend much time now, exploring all the beach resort cities of this hemisphere.
And what of Belize? No one speaks of Belize? Even the cheapest buffets will have too much to choose from, for vegetarians. Another convenient feature — when you are ready to leave … you just walk to the beach, any time during the day … and for a few dollars, there is a very comfortable bus, that takes you, straight to the airport.
So you can enjoy one last look at the beach, and leave in more comfort than a taxi ride, and enjoy your last hour with the wonderful Brazilians … making their way … and maybe make one last new foreign friend. For sports people — all along the beach, there is open games for all kinds of beach sports imaginable — though of course mostly games with soccer balls … but you can join most any game you want — and if you have a ball — you bring it with you to the beach — and instantly make new friends any place.
It is hard to find a Brazilian, who wont jump up, ready to toss a ball around, on the beach. Brazil has a yellow beer company, that is less for a whole liter at the Beach Bars, than one small glass at home.
They have their own sponsored yellow beach bars, that often have live music, late in to the night. I got meet all kinds of top scientists and athletes — just out for a day at the beach … Rio is an International Convention Center.
Hope you have a good evening. I do regret saying anything nice publicly about Rio … because I know … one person will come, then another, then two more … then 3, then four, then ten … I saw it happen with a secret back road parking area at the lake by my house — until finally the police had to start ticketing, because that neighborhood started to complain too much.
SO … remember … to all those who read my reports — I studied martial arts my entire life. I traveled every where. I just didnt … it was too much … fear of people and so much, just dissipitated …. Try to refrain from walking too far at night — never go out alone at night.
Thanks for the follow up comments Adra Traveler. Maybe it was just a post detailing my experience on this one trip, nothing more? I am sorry you had a bad experience. I am actually surprised that people treated you like that. People would talk to me and treat me like family. I also went to Sao Paulo and it was horrible. People were so unfriendly. I think it depends a lot. I disagree about them not liking Americans. Brazilians do like white people.
They are actually a little bit racist. They feel superior when they do that. I am from the north and we suffer that prejudice if we go down there. Maybe being a native spanish speaker helped. Interracial relations seemed most ordinary. Talking about experiences, I went to Toronto during the past Thanksgiving and also experienced funny situations. For instance, an old lady was naked and peeing in the subway just when I got into the Bloor-Young station; I booked an AirBnB and was hosted by a guy using underwear only btw, he later invited me to participate to his drag queen show and we became friends and, on top of that, they guys working in the construction just by my AirBnB screamed unintelligible words every time that I crossed the path walk in front of them.
Instead, I believe that Toronto is a big and crowded diverse city, with a broad mix of people living together. Thus, I opened my mind and brought only the good experiences that I had in the city.
Maybe because, before demanding respect and consideration, I understand cultural differences and treat every single person — and country — with respect and consideration. Thank you Gabriela for your comment.
There was friction going on at the time over the whole Visa situation. Our opinions of places are shaped by our experiences. Maybe everything would have been different under other circumstances?
Was thinking of Brazil as a travel destination, but after reading your blog, I am not so sure now. Thanks for the advice. Firstly I would like to make some considerations that may help other foreigners who are planning to visit Brazil. Foreigners have no real knowledge of how Brazil is currently. The population itself is afraid. You are most welcome. The Brazilian is tired of his own political, social and economic situation, and sometimes unloads in others. Sorry for the rude people. With regard to your partner, yes, Brazilians usually look at all women, but it does not go beyond that.
There is more to see in such a big country. I would advise you going either to Minas Gerais for its countryside tourism and any northeastern destination for its beaches. Espirito Santo is quite good too, specially because is completely off the touristicky sort of track and for its easy access to Southern Bahia, where all the decent beaches in the region are. And, to be honest, sorry for your experience in your swanky hotel. I mean, you surely should have complained.
As for the current political — criminal situation, well, not all the country is affected by this wave or criminality. Sadly, other states are in bad shape as well but none of them as bad as Rio.
Sad you have had a bad experience, but unfortunately I got to advise you. Rio is in Brazil but that does not mean that Brazil is only Rio. I came across your post while curiously looking for impressions foreigners have of Brazil. Also, Brazil is the worst country to live in, but also the best one to spend vacations! Living abroad, I have noticed how harder it is to make friends.
Brazilians are warm-hearted, and usually carry very positive energy. On the other hand, I believe Brazilians are also responsible for the corruption, even little gestures that sum up to a whole. Nowadays, I thank them for not even letting me consider. It is dangerous and frustrating having to always look around, afraid of suffering an attack.
For vacations, i love traveling around my country. It is filled with natural beauties and extremely pleasant people who are proud to present their culture to tourists, who are treated like kings! It was interesting reading about your impression on Brazil, and at the same time shocking to hear so many bad experiences towards a tourist! I thought only Brazilians talked shit about their country haha but I really hope you try again!
Hi Mikaela, What a nice comment, thank you! I hope you are enjoying Montreal. I went there as a student back in Studied at Concordia and ended up in Montreal 25 years. Thank you for having taken the time to comment.
I find Brazilians very friendly. The country is very multicultural unlike other latin countries. I studied in Germany, I can tell you there are way more unfriedly people in Europe. Brazilians are proud people.
Concerning women, I ve seen many beauties especially in the south of Brazil, most are caucacian looking out there. Speaking portuguese is useful. Many women are beautiful in Brazil and many people are friendly. Glad to hear you had a good experience Ryan. Or perhaps by the fact that Polish and Brazilians have a lot in common, surprising as it may seem.
Or are not as open and smiling all the time as you read on the internet before going there. You can feel the sense of dignity in Brazilians, even the most humble ones. I think that you need 2 things when visiting Brazil: And you never know what the Brazilians will perceive as disrespect, haha. There are so many kind and friendly Brazilians, that I can ignore those who are not. But your attitude is the key. You can sneak around, expecting danger anywhere and it will spoil your stay, because most tourists will be safe.
By the way, we are in your country Poland right now. Spending the month of July in Krakow. Wow, what a surprise that you are in Poland! Any other mountain destination would be better. We just got here a few days ago and it is hard to judge Poles at this point. Before that we would take vacations, like we did in Brazil. Anyway, thanks again with the comment, feedback and tips! After all, Brazil has plenty white people, specially in a fancy place like Leblon.
Maybe people misread your attitude, or vice-versa? Hi Felipe, Thank you for your comment. I was merely questioning why people were the way they were on that trip. I am German who lives in Amsterdam and I have been to Brazil 5 times and had a long relationship with a Brazilian guy from Rio. Here is my personal point of view about my experience having been there many times and knowing Brazilians closely. I am really surprised you found that people were hostile! My German and Dutch friends who have been there always say how much they love Brazilians.
I guess it could be maybe a language issue.. I did notice a huge difference when I went there for the second time and I could speak some Portuguese. It was much easier to communicate with people.
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