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With all due respect--I don't believe Lindros should qualify for this list.. Also, sticking strictly to "legends," Bobby Baun and Paul Henderson accomplished much greater and memorable legendary feats than Lindros.. Thank you very much for taking the time to put together and posting the list though.. Leaving off Cam Neely who defined the term 'Power Forward' is a omission. I still rate Orr - even with the shortned career - above Gretsky.
Sorry but my eyes told me something different when it came to seeing Orr vs. There's a certain breed of troll that prowls the internet looking for lists that don't have Martin Brodeur as the 1 goalie of all-time or top among all players.
Don't mind them, Joe. I would argue for dominik hasek as the greatest goalie of all time even by your criteria though certainly by mine. I don't think people give Milt Schmidt enough credit. His offensive numbers were not that high but he was spoken of just under Richard and Howe in his era. He was the best 2 way player in the game. Neely should be on the list and Parent should be higher.
Alos, I think that Hasek should be the 1 rated Goalie as well. He did more with less. Carlos Saldivia Bobby Baun and Paul Henderson were not even top 30 players at any point in their careers. Why would they make this list over Lindros? From canadian roster there are 10 players on your list, from Soviet roster 2.
In Canada played in Canada Cup three games with Czechoslovakia, two were very tight. From canadian roster there are 11 players on your list, from CSSR roster 1.
In Soviets defeated Canada 8: From canadian roster there are 11 players on your list, from SSSR roster 3. I understand international games were not the main criterion of your list, but still I think this is quite lopsided. On the other hand there are couple of canadian players whose legacy was far greater in Europe than in Canada, goalie Seth Martin comes to mind. Nice list, where impact on the game has more value than "who scored more goals". Already before Neely there have been players who could score and were initimidating as shit with hits and fists , e.
Al Secord, Clark Gillies. I still can't understand how underestimated Lindros ist. The only thing he didn't have was a puppet string attached to his helmet to keep his head up. The first HUGE guy who combined size, monstrous hitting ability, skating, scoring, playmaking. Way bigger impact on the game than neely. Top 7 in season assists 12 times Gartner: Ranks 2nd all time for Caps in G, A, P. Yeah Brodeur is a great goaltender, but until he surpasses Roy for playoff wins, he won't be considered greatest goaltender of all time.
In fact, I would iterate that Roy could challenge Gretzky and Orr for 1 of all time. He was the greatest clutch player and was probably the closest player to "win the Cup by himself. Roy's Habs did have Rob Brown and Denis Savard, great stars in their own right, but a stratosphere below Orr's or Gretzky's best teammates. Roy was arguably the real captain of the Habs. Captain Guy Carbonneau was rumoured to be on his last legs in , his Habs not expected to go far, but it was Roy who thrust them to the top.
Rob Brown never played for the Canadiens wasn't a star either. The '93 Canadiens were similar to Florida in '96, disciplined team defense and a hot goalie. But Roy's "heroics" are overrated IMO. In his Montreal days he played for a franchise that had been playing one of the most disciplined team defenses for decades. And in Colorado he simply joined one of the most talented and deepest teams.
In '93 let's not forget about McSorley. Without the measurement of Marty's stick in Game 2 probably nobody would remember Roy in ' Giguere in '03 was way more valuable than Roy in ' Five Shutouts to none..
Modern day era it's Hasek, no comparism. Before that I haven't seen any of the oldtimers.. Joe, thanks for your effort. BUT only one real omission for me My only tweak would be moving Roy; maybe it's just because I'm a Wings fan but I certainly saw massive ego-induced goof-ups on his part. Revisionist hockey has him as THE power forward when he played in an era when there were plenty. Neely was good, but if it weren't for the fact that he played in Boston I don't think he even makes the HoF.
No Phil Housley and how good do you think Gretsky would have been playing d or during an earlier era where he would have to pay for every point he made. He was protected doesn't deserve Orrs number one spot.
Well done but if you are considering legends where is Darryl Sittler? Sittler was a scoring force on a mediocre Leaf team in the 70's. There's Bobby Orr, then there's everyone else. His YouTube documentaries are a must-see for any hockey fan. Tirned,his back on the Nordiques.
And we all,know what they did,later. Mike Modano, I guess he isn't there because he's from the U. There seems to be a bit of national prejudice in this list. In fact The Hockey News did a really nice dual article on Modano and Sakic because of how similar their talent and careers were and because of their mutual respect for each other.
I think it was or around that time when I saw the article. Mike Modano pretty much made hockey a success in the city of Dallas where it would otherwise have floundered and eventually be de-expanded or moved. Hayley Wickenheiser and Manon Rheame just because they had the balls to try.
And Theo Fleury if for no other reason than as a cautionary tale. Thanks for making the list, it was a fun read and Lindros deserves to be there, disliking someone makes it difficult for less mature people to accept someone's talent but he was dominant in the game and its obvious from his career.
Gretzky is rightly 1 on this list. How would the NHL look today had he not been traded to the Kings? I bet quite a few less teams. The Jets would have not left Winnipeg. And 99 would still be available for use in the NHL. This might sound blastphemous to some purists, but I think Crosby should be higher. In the top 15 at the very least if not the top I'm comparitively young, but I've watched pretty much all of the post-Gretzky era, which has probably been the most competitive never mind international era in hockey history, and he is without question the most gifted player I've ever seen.
He's already proven himself to be not just a winner but a leader on winning teams on both the international and club levels, both in Junior and Senior. But on a personal level, there are absolutely no glaring flaws with his game. Some guys are better scorers than Crosby Ovechkin , some are better stickhandlers or better defensively Datsyuk , but Crosby is elite level at everything, which is what makes him so dangerous. Not to mention he's the best passer in the league, has the best instincts, and is the hardest to take off of the puck.
Right now he's absolutely dominating the best conditioned set of athletes in the NHL. In terms of absolute legacy, I'm not completely ignorant of the past. I wouldn't put him at a level with Gretzky, Lemieux, or Orr. I'd probably even put him below Howe. But I think he already belongs in a class with Richard and Beliveau for sure on the basis of pure talent. Consider he has the fourth-highest points per game right now in the history of the game, and set a lot of NHL records.
Moreover, Hasek should be higher too. Crosby is no way deserves to be in the top In fact, in terms of career accomplishments 1 scoring title and 1 MVP by the age of 26 he shouldn't even be in the top He is one of the most overrated players in recent memory. Don't let NBC tell you otherwise. I wouldn't put Crosby in the top 10, either, but to say he doesn't deserve to be there is just your opinion.
The title is greatest hockey players, not greatest nhl careers. I guess that the top three could be debated. The game has changed so much from Howe's beginning to Gretzky's.
It's hard to compare over the different eras.
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